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manny6574
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ok, so I know as3, html, xhtml, some php&mysql. I want to learn another language, preferably something not website based.

I would like something a bit different from the other but not too much.

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Darkroot
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I have no difficulty with mathematics(I am near the topof the top class in school.


That hardly matters to get anywhere you at least have to have grade 12 math and to actually program without restriction you have to have some calc, linear algebra and discrete math. Otherwise you limited in your scope.

For example can you understand this?

This is basic logic that you even have to know for python.

Oh and what do you mean by beginner?


A beginner is someone new and unexperienced.
manny6574
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For example can you understand this?

This is basic logic that you even have to know for python.


???

ok, that's shocking, never expected that to come up. But after 10 min of reading a bit of that article and some others I am beggining to understand it(and it does seem like basics). So, if I spent some more time, I would be able to learn that relatively quickly. And once I unsderstand that, I'd go on to learn more and more complicated stuff.

BTW, what's grade 12(what age?) because I live in the UK?
Darkroot
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I would forget about learning this stuff yet and concentrate on just learning some programming but not higher level languages. I still recommend python or java. Grade 12 is like 17-18.

Ghgt99
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For example can you understand this?


I understand it after reading the article, it actually is fairly simple.
Darkroot
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Reading and understanding are two completely different things Ghgt99. Those are just some proposition logic rules.

Ghgt99
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Reading and understanding are two completely different things Ghgt99. Those are just some proposition logic rules.


I meant that I know now what that means and how he came to that conclusion. I also have done some similar problems.
Darkroot
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It's highly unlikely you have done propositional logic or boolean logic. You are probably mistaking it for something else.

manny6574
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Well, I said if so I won't learn that now, but maybe in the future or whe n I have absolutely nothing else to do.

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thanks for information

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When I finished reading this topic, I just understood something. I do not mean to be rude, but Ghgt99 you are an egocentric, if you're a great programmer or a super intellectual, you should show it because the words are worthless, I have 13 years and I do many things but I do not presume to others .

Manny6574 I'm sure dealing with c + + you'll never get anything, you have to go little by little. And Darkroot, I think you are right in saying that reading and understanding are 2 different things.

Manny6574 Indeed, I think you ought to learn python.
Sorry if the first comment was not related to the topic

manny6574
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I think you are right in saying that reading and understanding are 2 different things.


yes, but after you read you might undestand.

I have 13 years


So do I, and are you french?

I'm sure dealing with c + + you'll never get anything


And one more person to say that, but I still don't understand why, python seems more complicate to me than c++.
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And one more person to say that, but I still don't understand why, python seems more complicate to me than c++.


It is, thats a fact. If you don't think so then you don't understand it. Your just having difficulties with using the program not with working with the language therefore the compilers are more complicated.

yes, but after you read you might understand.


Unless you have good meta-cognition in understanding the fact you can understand the fact then you might be able to say that in some confidence but you can't know unless you do some problems, and since you only said you read some math problems I can say in relative confidence you couldn't have understood a boolean algebra with only reading one set of rules once and not doing associated problems. So in the end reading =/= understanding. Especially in subjects that are not solely information based.
manny6574
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ok, let's take python out of the disscussion.

Why shouldn't I learn c++ now?

Carlytoon
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Why shouldn't I learn c++ now?


Bro, i dont know much programming but C++ is a really hard language to learn, even for a expert is a pain to learn, python is a good option because show you the basics of the true programming. But maybe you have the potencial to learn the powerful language of C++

Sorry if my english have mistakes
Ghgt99
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It's highly unlikely you have done propositional logic or boolean logic. You are probably mistaking it for something else.
Yeah, my uncle is a mathematician so what I meant is he told me how it works and I have seen similar problems. I never actually did one like that. It is a bit like something I am learning in school so I got them confused.
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