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since i got the history channels game about the civil war (people says it sucks, but i love it, especially the single shot rifles)




But i shall make this game

if you didn't know what it was


now onto the classes

and it goes this
Union/Confederate

Grenadier: you run around chucking grenades for the army
Items:Colt Army Model 1860/Colt 1851 Navy Revolver,Union/Confederate uniform,Army Cap,Army Jacket,Canteen,Cartridge box,Blanket roll,5 ketchum grenades

Rifleman:your average soldier all round good
Items:Springfield Model 1861/Richmond Rifle,Bayonet,Union/Confederate uniform,Army Cap,Army Jacket,Canteen,Cartridge box,Blanket roll

Artilleryman: you command the power and presence of artillery
Pattern 1861 Enfield Musketoon/Henry Rifle,Three inch ordinance rifle/10 pound Parrott rifle,Union/Confederate uniform,Army Cap,Army Jacket,Canteen,Cartridge box,Blanket roll

Sniper:Whitworth rifle w/brass scopes/Springfield Model 1861 w/brass scopes,Bowie knife,Union/Confederate uniform,Army Cap,Army Jacket,Canteen,Cartridge box,Blanket roll

Cavalryman:Model 1840 Light Artillery Saber/Model 1832 Dragoon Saber,Trained horse,Union/Confederate uniform,Army Cap,Army Jacket,Canteen,Cartridge box,Blanket roll


And i urge you, if you want to make your own class, DO IT i prefer only one officer, other than that i say here's the sheet!


Name:
Age:
Gender:
Weapons:
Uniform:
Class:
Side:
Haversack: put misc. items here
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Rank: obviously if your an infantryman your not a general but you can make if your bio describes you you ranked
Bio:
Perk: i get from bio
Extra: nothing too special bout you, make 2
Health:100/100
Conditions: non

that's it, i think, but i know the little dashes probably is gonna be messed up so if you can fix them so they use one line to separate I'd be thankful

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
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Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

"Yes, sir."
Leave like normal, then run to the Union lines and start making "soldiers"; stuff that looks like soldiers but isn't actually. Uniforms stuffed with straw armed with sticks, stuff like that. To make it more convincing, lay them down on the ground so it looks like they're in the prone position, covered and ready to fire. Lots and lots of those.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
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Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

Then paint them blue or dress them in simple cloth(not all Union soldiers could afford uniforms, after all).

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

What?
Who's "they" and what is happening?

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

Confederates doing what?

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

Dive into cover, hiding along with all my fellow "soldiers" and fire at the Confederates so it looks like all my "compatriots" are doing it.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

Sharps Rifle, when I run out of ammo on that, the Colt Repeater, when I run out of ammo on that, my pistol.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

Shoot him. Gun > Bayonet

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

Stab him with my bowie knife.

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your bowie knife is sheathed, and he has your rifle up in an X looking thing you have to hold it with both hands to keep him off you

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:100/100
Conditions: none

Kick him in the groin or gut or whatever.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:90/100
Conditions: none

Stab him.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:90/100
Conditions: none

Disarm him.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:90/100
Conditions: none

Fall back out of the trench so I can actually use my rifle to shoot them before they enter the trench.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [6/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:90/100
Conditions: none

Shoot the Confederates approaching the trench with my repeater, to ease the pressure off the folks in the trenches.

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Name: Franklin T. Worthington
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Weapons: Sharps rifle [1/90],Colt Army Model 1860,bayonet,Bowie knife,Colt repeater [3/32]
Uniform: Union uniform,Confederate uniform [wearing]
Class: Spy
Side: Union
Haversack: Cartridge pouch,documents
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rank: Corporal.
Bio: Argh...I just had to remake this entire thing, so don't be surprised if it's ****ty.
Born in Boston, Massachusetts to a wealthy family of officers, Worthington was raised with a formal education and heavy training to be a soldier. Because of the strict disciplinarian methods of his childhood, Worthington became sick of rules and laws and became a bit of an outlaw. He was caught for arson and thrown in jail, but his family stepped in and made the army conscript him as an enlisted man instead of jail time. He got in trouble in the army, too, for disobedience and disrespect, but was noticed by the higher-ups after, again, interference on the part of his family. He was thus sent to the Battle of Bull Run, or Manassas, where he actually did well, capturing a Confederate officer. In return, he was promoted to Corporal. Soon afterward, a Union spy was discovered by the Confederates and executed, leaving a spot open. Worthington applied, and was assigned to the position of spy.
Perk: Capturer: your chances of capturing lower ranking soldiers is higher
Extra: Smooth Talker(can intimidate, bluff, lie, charm, etc.), Black Ops(is stealthy, as well as being excellent at climbing, swimming, jumping, running, and hiding).
Health:90/100
Conditions: none

Tourniquet to stop the bleeding, then use my pistol(which I can fire with just one hand, right?) instead.

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