I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done. I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please
Okay so why did god put a knowledge tree in the garden?
If you read the other person's argument, then God had put the tree in it so that Adam and Eve could choose to eat it if they wanted to. If there was no way to sin, then sinning is not really a choice, right?
So what we have established here is that true free will does not exist. Therefore there is no such thing as free will?
I will choose to define free will for the purpose of our discussion. Free will: the ability to make choices based on what our brains our wired to do So we will make certain choices in our lives based on our environment, and there is no way to change the choice we will make because by changing it, we fulfill the choice we were really going to make. Free will in the sense that it escapes the pre-existing knowledge of an all-knowing and perfect god cannot exist.
Ah yes, but he did. Noah's Flood.
I think by reset button loboynage meant undoing all events and warning us beforehand not to listen to the serpant in the garden. Isn't this within the power of a perfect god?
Isaiah 55:9 âAs the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." Our definition of real could be fake to him. Our definition of normal could be weird. Our colors that we are limited to, could be bland to him. We don't know. The thoughts we are limited to are nothing compared to him.
Our definition of real could be fake to him. Our definition of normal could be weird. Our colors that we are limited to, could be bland to him. We don't know. The thoughts we are limited to are nothing compared to him.
How can we worship something we cannot comprehend at all? Why doesn't God enlighten us so that we can know why he does certain things? What kind of game is it where we have to rely on blind faith to live in heaven simply because God knows more than we do?
[quote]So what we have established here is that true free will does not exist. Therefore there is no such thing as free will?
Or maybe there is no such thing as god.[/quote]
Or maybe there is a God and there is such thing as free will. Just because God knows what you are going to do, he didn't force that upon you, you are the person who made the decision.
Let's make a scenario.
God is watching you bully someone and yet he can't directly stop you or else it will compromise free will.
If we knew as he knew, there would be no point in believing And there would be no future to look forward to. Does that sound fun?
It sounds like heaven, actually.
Why does there have to be a point in believing? Why do we have to choose to believe in God when he hides from us for thousands of years? And why would there be no future to look forward to? Wouldn't we still have a shot at heaven even if we knew beforehand about his existence? Satan, for instance, knew about God but chose to defy him. Knowing about God doesn't make it impossible to turn away from him, so why can't we know about his existence?
If you read the other person's argument, then God had put the tree in it so that Adam and Eve could choose to eat it if they wanted to. If there was no way to sin, then sinning is not really a choice, right?
So if I want an infant to have free will I should leave dangerous things around him within easy access?
