I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done. I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please
The big bang theory states that at the beginning there was a extrememly condensed point of energy. This point expands and as the universe cools down some matter are made from the energy. We start off with small matter like hydrogen. Then the hydrogen clump together and become stars. Stars then explode over time and make heavier elements due to the immense power and energy. we then have more rocky elements and that means we have astorids which colide and create planets. THE END. haven't I done this before?
This site gives a basic overview of the evidence supporting evolution versus the creationist theory, but I'm sure if you searched, you could find articles or periodicals that at least address the subject.
No, you said youve seen it happen... I was supposeing u meant u saw it on a video or something
No I said we as in humans have observed it. Those observations are then documented. For instance how we were able to observe the Italian wall lizard evolve. We were able to take the new lizard to preform a genetic test to tell that it was the offspring of the original transplanted lizards, but it had a completely new feature not present in it's descendants. Another example from lab experiments is how we were able to induce bacteria to independently evolve an enzyme to eat nylon. Like the original nylonase which evolved in nature to do this, but the lab strain used a different enzyme. mid=6305910">http://jb.asm.org/cgi/reprint/155/1/22?view=long&mid=6305910 The rise of antibiotic resistant bacteria wold be another example that can be commonly observed.
It was discussed somewhere here before... pages 40-50 IIRC, the story of creation can be viewed as an allegory, in terms of "days", and we have no knowledge of the exact way how did God create everything. "Pure" creationist claim that since everything is created, nothing can change, while nothing but angels was created as perfect, everything dies, everyone die. So, creationists can only claim that "God created life", but not "it didn't come through evolution". "Pure" evolutionists claim that evolution "just started" and like "was here every time" and that it's purely random in terms of what mutations there are. I can answer here that whenever anything is "urely random" to our means, nothing could be said if it wasn't actually directed from the outside (aka by God). So you cannot explicitly deny God because if that. So, evolution and creationism can coexist if the latter will be treated more loosely and the former will drop its attitude of "we will know for certain why are we like that".
Ok time to debunk another Christian sentence by sentence if there is something to debunk in that sentence.
It was discussed somewhere here before... pages 40-50 IIRC, the story of creation can be viewed as an allegory, in terms of "days", and we have no knowledge of the exact way how did God create everything.
So basically your saying that we take God's creation as a metaphor? And we have no exact knowledge on how exactly the Universe got started for all theories.
"Pure" creationist claim that since everything is created, nothing can change, while nothing but angels was created as perfect, everything dies, everyone die.
1.What do you mean by pure creationist because it seems like your overgeneralizing.2.and Angels aren't the most perfect since Lucifer(satan) obviously wasn't.
"Pure" evolutionists claim that evolution "just started" and like "was here every time" and that it's purely random in terms of what mutations there are.
All I can say is you should read up on Evolution because it's not just about mutations.And evolution doesn't explain how we started.Also overgeneralizing what evolutionist
I can answer here that whenever anything is "urely random" to our means, nothing could be said if it wasn't actually directed from the outside (aka by God).
Basically saying that God is in another Universe?
So you cannot explicitly deny God because if that.
Watch this "I'm denying God because of that". No I'm going to be excessively punished just because I don't believe in him?
So, evolution and creationism can coexist if the latter will be treated more loosely and the former will drop its attitude of "we will know for certain why are we like that".
No it can't because Evolution isn't in the Bible and what's not in the Bible isn't God's word which means God must be pretty dumb :P
No I said we as in humans have observed it. Those observations are then documented. For instance how we were able to observe the Italian wall lizard evolve. We were able to take the new lizard to preform a genetic test to tell that it was the offspring of the original transplanted lizards, but it had a completely new feature not present in it's descendants. Another example from lab experiments is how we were able to induce bacteria to independently evolve an enzyme to eat nylon. Like the original nylonase which evolved in nature to do this, but the lab strain used a different enzyme. http://jb.asm.org/cgi/reprint/155/1/22? ⦠id=6305910 The rise of antibiotic resistant bacteria wold be another example that can be commonly observed.
Oh ok... well i think i gotta be done in this thread for awile becuase i keep confuseing myself.
"Pure" evolutionists claim that evolution "just started" and like "was here every time" and that it's purely random in terms of what mutations there are.
Evolution started as a result of imperfect molecular replication. Also the processes involved aren't all random.
[quote]I can answer here that whenever anything is "urely random" to our means, nothing could be said if it wasn't actually directed from the outside (aka by God).
Basically saying that God is in another Universe?[/quote]
I think what he's saying here is that since there is no deterministic pattern ie an unknown, God did it.
So, evolution and creationism can coexist if the latter will be treated more loosely and the former will drop its attitude of "we will know for certain why are we like that".
The whole point of science to to strive for being as close to certain as we can possibly get and it has had a pretty good track record to date. There is no reason for our expansion of knowledge to make concessions to a religious doctrine.
