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thepyro222
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I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done.
I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please

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dair5
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Secone, the guy who wrote that has clearly no idea of the Big Bang Theory, abiogenesis and evolution.


He probably does. Those are written to combine all the misconceptions of a belife (or lack of) and mock it. It's like the christian zombie one. Those really don't prove anything and can't be used as an argument. So it's called...

a strawman argument.
MageGrayWolf
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From wiki.

A straw man is a component of an argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man&quot, and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.
dair5
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So... am I wrong? I wonder, do different people write these or is it the same guy? He could be unsure of either and mock them both. I also wonder if a lot of people belive these arguments are true.

MageGrayWolf
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So... am I wrong?


What you wrote does apply but is a bit vague as to what the fallacy entails. Just wanted to make sure to clarify.

I wonder, do different people write these or is it the same guy?


The fallacy or the definition of the fallacy?

I also wonder if a lot of people belive these arguments are true.


Yes it's a very common misconception, worthy of the "Ask An Atheist" thread.
dair5
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The fallacy or the definition of the fallacy?


Um. The part where they make up the lies about a belife (or lack of) in white letters and put them on a black screen. I'm just going to guess this is the fallacy.
MageGrayWolf
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Um. The part where they make up the lies about a belife (or lack of) in white letters and put them on a black screen. I'm just going to guess this is the fallacy.


I think that particular one came from a single source. I can't remember who it was though.
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^Troll.
Anyways if pure ignorance has a chance of changing it wouldn't be surprising if it took a whole year to change people's opinion. I'm not saying we want to but when every Christian that tells me that I'm going to hell just because I don't believe in their God shouldn't be a reason for me to go to forever torture.

RikJimmy00
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what does the FTW means?

gaboloth
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For The Win.
But seriously, ask this kind of questions to google.

RikJimmy00
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But seriously, ask this kind of questions to google.


Didnt thought about it

So this thread is for defending cristianity? for the win ?
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It looks like the guy who made it just wanted to tell everyone how wonderful christianity is, but it now it's the main christian debating thread. The name could have changed through the years though. I remember it being changed to Christianity WTF, but some christians didn't enjoy the new name, and it changed back to FTW.

RikJimmy00
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It looks like the guy who made it just wanted to tell everyone how wonderful christianity is, but it now it's the main christian debating thread. The name could have changed through the years though. I remember it being changed to Christianity WTF, but some christians didn't enjoy the new name, and it changed back to FTW.


are you sure that its though years? i see that the first comment is this year... but anyway christians for the win! i believe this thread is debated by many players of different religions...
dair5
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i believe this thread is debated by many players of different religions...


Mostly Christians, and atheist. We also get agonistics, and occasionally someone from another religion.
RikJimmy00
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Mostly Christians, and atheist. We also get agonistics, and occasionally someone from another religion.


mmm ok the daily debating should come in handy...i like debating a lot
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I agree with the original poster. It feels great.

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