I grew up atheist for 16 years. I had always kept an open mind towards religion, but never really felt a need to believe in it. My sister started going to a Wednesday night children's program at a church. Eventually, I was dragged into a Christmas Eve service. Scoffing, I reluctantly went, assuming that this was going to be a load of crap, but when I went, I felt something. Something that I've never felt before. I felt a sense of empowerment and a sense of calling. Jesus called upon my soul, just like he did with his disciples. he wanted me to follow him. Now, my life is being lived for Christ. He died on the cross for my sins, and the sins of everyone who believes in him. He was beaten, brutalized, struck with a whip 39 times, made to carry a cross up to the stage of his death. This I believe to be true, and I can never repay him for what he has done. I still have my struggles with Christianity, but I've found this bit of information most useful. Religion is not comprehensible in the human mind, because we cannot comprehend the idea of a perfect and supreme being, a God, but we can believe it in our heart, and that's the idea of faith. Faith is, even though everything rides against me believing in Jesus, I still believe in him because I know that it's true in my heart. I invite my fellow Brothers and sisters of the LORD to talk about how Jesus has helped you in your life. No atheists and no insults please
Disbelieving seems to be just as strong for you as believing if you choose to go out of your way to disprove the beliefs of another person, so I'm just asking you if you can prove the belief that there are no magic pixies (because that is what you believe, right?)
I never stated either belief or disbelief in magic pixies, nor made any arguments or comments towards or against the existence of magic pixies, so you have no information that allows you to assume whether I believe in them or not. However, Partydevil seemed to be arguing against the existence of an afterlife, so I assumed he believed there was none.
If we don't have objective verifiable evidence supporting the claim we have no reason to accept that claim.
Which is why I'm asking why you accept the claim that there is no afterlife, because there is no verifiable evidence either way.
[quote] If we don't have objective verifiable evidence supporting the claim we have no reason to accept that claim.
Which is why I'm asking why you accept the claim that there is no afterlife, because there is no verifiable evidence either way.[/quote]
i did not accept a claim that there was no afterlife i disagreed on the claim that there is 1. i did it into reaction of the other guy. why should i need to proof my point if he didn't prove his.
religions came up whit the wole idea of a afterlife. but i did never see them give any proof of it being real. and now i have to disproof their claim? whats up whit that?
religions came up whit the wole idea of a afterlife. but i did never see them give any proof of it being real. and now i have to disproof their claim? whats up whit that?
Well, there are the claims of those with near-death experiences, where they were legally dead for a few minutes, and claimed to see things such as the apparently typical tunnel with light at the end and dead relatives there.
Well, there are the claims of those with near-death experiences, where they were legally dead for a few minutes, and claimed to see things such as the apparently typical tunnel with light at the end and dead relatives there.
you will never see a atheist making any of those claims maybe some christians who pretend they were atheist befor the near-death experience.
i did not accept a claim that there was no afterlife i disagreed on the claim that there is 1. i did it into reaction of the other guy. why should i need to proof my point if he didn't prove his.
religions came up whit the wole idea of a afterlife. but i did never see them give any proof of it being real. and now i have to disproof their claim? whats up whit that?
You don't have to do anything. I was just asking if you could prove the lack of an afterlife. If you don't believe in either an afterlife or a lack thereof, then I'm obviously asking the wrong person.
Well, there are the claims of those with near-death experiences, where they were legally dead for a few minutes, and claimed to see things such as the apparently typical tunnel with light at the end and dead relatives there.
you will never see a atheist making any of those claims maybe some christians who pretend they were atheist befor the near-death experience.
Not nessisarily. You could be atheist and have your mind vision that during you near-death experience. You could even belive in an afterlife, as long as there is no god to rule over it.
Well that would be quite silly wouldn't it? Even if there is no god in the equation, the very thought of an afterlife after death is supernatural, especially if you are throwing a soul in the whole shibang. If you are an Atheist, and you know there is no god, and you know your body decomposes after death, and you know that there is no such thing as a soul, then why should there be any mention of an afterlife when an afterlife is supernatural too?
You could be atheist and have your mind vision that during you near-death experience.
Exactly. Your beliefs have nothing to do with it. It's likely caused by a flooding of endorphins to your sensory receptors to numb you when you die. Some believe what they saw means heaven, to others it's just a pleasing chemical reaction.
If you are an Atheist, and you know there is no god, and you know your body decomposes after death, and you know that there is no such thing as a soul, then why should there be any mention of an afterlife when an afterlife is supernatural too?
Supernatural is not necessarily related to theism. Lots of Buddhists believe in an afterlife and they are atheist.
Well that would be quite silly wouldn't it? Even if there is no god in the equation, the very thought of an afterlife after death is supernatural, especially if you are throwing a soul in the whole shibang. If you are an Atheist, and you know there is no god, and you know your body decomposes after death, and you know that there is no such thing as a soul, then why should there be any mention of an afterlife when an afterlife is supernatural too?
Yeah you're right. An afterlife would be a little silly. But not all suoernatural situations. Reincarnation wouldn't be silly to all atheist.
Lots of Buddhists believe in an afterlife and they are atheist.
buddhists believe in devas. they believe that evry can reach the level of "god" (not the idea of a god like we know in the western world that came from the jews.)by meditation. because "god" is insides evry1's spirit.
